The signs of Allaah's love for a person.

The signs of Allaah's love for a person are as follows :

1.When Allah loves someone he puts them under trials ( the more righteous they are, the harder the trials) in order to purify them.

2. When Allaah loves someone, he gives them the "understanding" of the religion of islaam.

3.Whomever Allaah loves, he deviates them and their heart from disobedience and sins..

Abu Huraira Radhiallahu anhu narrated tha Allah's Messenger Shalallahu alaihi wa Salam said that Allah said: I will declare war against him who shows hostility to a pious worshiper of mine And the most beloved things with which My slave comes nearer to Me, is what I have enjoined upon him; and My worshiper keeps on coming closes to Me through performing Nawafil (praying or doing extra deeds besides what is (obligatory) till I love him,

When i love him I become his sense of hearing with which he hears, and his sense of sight with which he sees,and his hands with which he grips, and his legs with which he walks; and if he ask Me, I will give him, and if he ask My Protection (Refuge), I will Protect him. Narrated by Al-Bukhari.

In a Hadith Qudsi (Sacred Hadith), the Prophet (SAWS) mentioned that Allah (SWT) said, Myself, Mankind and Jinn are in a great serious state. I create them, then they worship other gods that they make for themselves; I bless them with my bounties, then they thank someone else for what I sent them; My Mercy descends to them while their evil deeds ascend to Me; I endear them with my gifts even though I have no need to any of them while they alienate themselves from Me with their sins even though they are desperate for my help. Whoever returns to Me, I accept him no matter how far he is; and whoever turns away from Me, I approach him and call on him. Whoever leaves a sin for my sake, I reward him with many gifts and whoever seeks to please Me, I seek to please him. Whoever acknowledges My Will and Power in whatever he does, I make the iron bend for his sake.

My dear people are those who are with Me, Whoever thanks Me, I grant him more blessings; whoever obeys Me, I raise him and endear him more. Whoever disobeys Me, I keep the doors of My Mercy open for him; if he returns to Me, I bestow him with My Love since I love those who repent and purify themselves for My Sake. If he does not repent, I still treat him by putting them in hardship to purify him. Whoever favors Me over others, I favor them over others. I reward every single good deed ten times over or seven hundred times over to countless times over.I count every single bad deed as one unless the person repents and ask for My Forgiveness in which case I forgive even that one. I take into account any little good deed and I forgive even major sins. My Mercy supersedes My Anger; My Tolerance supersedes My Blame;

My Forgiveness supersedes My Punishment as I am more merciful with My slaves than a mother with her child.

Madarij Al-Salikeen by Ibn-Qayem Al-jawzyia

Response to agniveer. (Allah(swt) - shapeless or limited?)

Article by Brothers Mushafiq Sultan & Asim ul Haq

Proof reading by Sister Noor ul Huda

Assalamualaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barkatahu (May Peace, Blessings & Mercy of Allah Be Upon You)

This Article is in reply to the article in Anti Islamic website agniveer.com with title, Allah – Shapeless or Limited? Article is available here: http://agniveer.com/939/allah-shapeless/

Response to the above article is divided in 3 parts

1) Introductory reply to topic

2) Replying Agniveer's 12 points against Qur`an

3) Replying Agniveer's 7 points on the concept of God in Vedas (a) to (g).



1) Introductory reply to topic

Agniveer states:
The common Muslim belief is that Allah is a shapeless and omnipresent entity. This is not only an accurate description of qualities of All-powerful Ishwar, but also in lines with Vedas.
Response:

The author don't even know the actual belief of Muslims, A Muslim will never say Allah is omnipresent with his essence, but the belief of a Muslim is Allah is everywhere with his knowledge and Allah is over (Istawaa) the (Mighty) Throne in a manner that suits His Majesty, separate from his creation and we believe in his attributes without matching HIM with HIS creation (whoever does that he is not a muslim) because there is nothing like unto HIM (Allah).

For proof see these Ayahs.

[057:004] He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then Istawa (rose over) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). He knows what goes into the earth and what comes forth from it, what descends from the heaven and what ascends thereto. And He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be. And Allah is the All-Seer of what you do (Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan).


[042:011]The Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you mates from yourselves, and for the cattle (also) mates. By this means He creates you (in the wombs). There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer.(Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan)

So, when starting of the article is so weak because they don't know the creed of their opponent, how can their article be a credible any more? The whole article is answered in these few sentences but still we are replying to author’s arguments.




Agniveer states:

However if we dwell into the modern Quran, we can witness an Allah which has a shape and size. This is in sharp contradiction to the established concept of Allah and hint at either there being tampering with original Quran or that Quran is not the final word of either Muhammad or Allah.

Response:

What does he mean by Modern Qur`an?? The Qur`an never changed, it is the same as it was 1400 years ago, Alhumdu`lillah, Holy Qura’an says;

[015:009] Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Quran) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption). (Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan:)

Check this link, “The Compilation of the Quran” (from kids corner of website because author don't even know basics)
http://www.islamweb.net/kidsen/kids%20corner%201,2/subjects/gam3elkoraan1.html




2) Replying Agniveer's 12 points against Qur`an

Agniveer states:

1. Surate Yunis, Ayat 6 states that Allah created the sky and earth in 6 days and then settled at the top in his throne.

Response:
This is utter lie because this is what Allah says in SURAH YUNUS (not Yunis)

[010:006] Verily, in the alternation of the night and the day and in all that Allah has created in the heavens and the earth are Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) for those people who keep their duty to Allah, and fear Him much. (Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan)

So, it is clearly seen that what the ayah says and what the author claimed about the ayah are two way different things?? I believe he just copied and pasted or he is willingly trying to deceive.


Agniveer states:
2. Surate Hood, Ayat 7 states that Allah created the sky and earth in 6 days and his throne is over the water.

Tafseer Husaini, a supposedly authoritative commentary on Quran states that Allah created a green stone before creating the world and saw it with anger. This caused the stone to become water. Then Allah created air and kept water over air. Then he made his throne above this water.

It is obvious that writers of Quran were ignorant of science and hence thought that since rainfall comes from top, there must be water over air. And since there is so much empty space on top, Allah must be sitting there!

Response:
Firstly I have never ever heard about the tafsir of husaini, and i don't know who is the author, this commentary is not authority in any case.

Secondly ,this is Surah Hud ayah 7

[011:007] And He it is Who has created the heavens and the earth in six Days and His Throne was on the water, that He might try you, which of you is the best in deeds. But if you were to say to them: "You shall indeed be raised up after death," those who disbelieve would be sure to say, "This is nothing but obvious magic."(Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan)

Prophet peace be upon him said, «كَانَ اللهُ قَبْلَ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ، وَكَانَ عَرْشُهُ عَلَى الْمَاءِ، وَكَتَبَ فِي اللَّوْحِ الْمَحْفُوظِ ذِكْرَ كُلِّ شَيْء »

(Allah was before everything and His Throne was over the water. He then wrote in the Preserved Tablet (Loh e Mahfooz) mentioning everything.) (Commentry of Ibne kathir under the ayah 11:7)

So what is the problem here?? There is no beginning of Allah, and as we already made it clear, Allah is over (Istawaa) the (Mighty) Throne in a manner that suits His Majesty, separate from his creation and we believe in his attributes without matching with HIS creation(whoever matches he is not a muslim) because there is nothing like unto him (Allah).
Check the following article regarding the belief of Muslims: http://www.as-salaf.com/article.php?aid=66&lang=en
The Istiwa of Allah Almighty does not resemble the istiwa of creation, rather, we believe that Allah istawa over His Throne in a manner befitting His Majesty, not like that of creation.
Allah (swt) said : [42:11] There is nothing like Him, and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer
And,
[112:4]And there is none coequal or comparable to Him
The kayfiyyah (reality; how-ness) of Allah’s Istiwa is unknown to us, as Allah has not informed us, nor did His Messenger –sallallahu alayhi wa salamm-, on the details of this matter, and it is not permissible to ask about the kayfiyyah of His Attributes. Allah Almighty alone knows how He Rose (Istawa) over His Throne and our duty is to believe and submit without doubt.

Agniveer states:
So much for Islamic science. However what is more important is that this makes clear that his throne is a finite object and hence Allah is also finite in size. Also since Allah is on his throne, he is not below the air and water. Thus the Allah of Quran is limited in shape and location, contrary to common belief of Muslims.

Response
Here Agniveer is comparing Allah and his throne to His creation, (which is Kufar). Also No Muslim believes that Allah has limitations rather, the scholars (may Allah have mercy on them) have stated that the Throne covers all of creation and is above it.

For more detail see, "Is the Throne above the seventh heaven?" source: http://islamqa.com/en/ref/47048

And if someone says that Muslim do believe in limitations, then that is with the meaning:” which distinguishes Him from anything else”;



Shaykh ul Islam ibn Taymiyyah discusses the statements of those from the Pious Predecessors who negated the usage of the word hadd(limit), and those who used it, and explains that in reality both groups were saying the same thing, and the difference was merely of wording not of meaning:

"If the understood meaning of this word is that Allah is in any way enclosed by His creation, then Allah is Greater and more Mighty, rather His Kursi is as the expanse of the Heavens and the earth…and if what is meant by this word is that he is distinct from His creation, then He is as the Imaams of Ahlus Sunnah said about Him: over His Heavens, above His Throne, distinct from creation." [‘at-Tadmuriyyah’ (pg.46)of ibn Taymiyyah, check also for further details, ‘Talbees al-Jahmiyyah’ (2/163)] (See saying of Shaykh Ibne Tamiyah here: http://islamworld.net/docs/tay.html)



Agniveer states:
Please note that the concept of a shapeless, omnipresent Allah is inspired from Vedas, which form the foundation of all that is good and right in Quran. Also, unlike Quran, Vedas are available in same original form as when it was first revealed in hearts of Rishis.

Response:
This is utter lie because no Muslim believe in Allah's omnipresence, This is Agniveer belief, and If Vedas are still in orignal form, can they tell us to which Prophet Vedas were revealed?? This is not the time to praise vedas.



See Islamic Answer regarding Vedas: http://www.ilovezakirnaik.com/misconceptions/c10.htm




Agniveer states:
3. Surate Haka 17 states that eight people will lift the throne of Allah Miyan. Tafseere Husaini details it further by stating that those who will lift the throne of Allah will have faces like goats from mountains. The distance between their ankles and knees will equal the distance from one sky to another sky. (Islam believes there are 7 skies!)

Response:

1stly there is nothing like ALLAH MIYAN??

2ndly Tafseer Husaini is no where evidence, and

3rdly this is not 7 skies but 7 layers.

Ibn Katheer commented in his Tafseer on the saying of Allah (which means): {who has created the seven heavens one above the another.}[67:3] which means layers one above another. With regard to whether these layers are successive one on top of the other, or they are separate and there is gap between them; there are two opinions about this.

The most correct opinion, however, is that the layers are separate and there is gap between them. The evidence is the narration about Israa' and Mi'araaj and other narrations. One of these narrations is classified as weak by some scholars. The narration is as following: The Prophet said: "And between each heaven and the other, there is a distance of travel of 500 years, and the thickness of each heaven is a distance of travel of 500 years." [Ahmad].



For detailed answer visit the following link:

http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=89488

Also see

Seven Atmospheric Layers in the Noble Quran confirmed by Science!: http://www.answering-christianity.com/seven_layers.htm



Coming to SURAH AL-HAQQAH (not Hakka) Ayah 17 agniveer claims that 8 people will lift the throne, this is not 8 people this is Angels;

The ayah says:

And the angels will be on its sides, and eight angels will, that Day, bear the Throne of your Lord above them.



No where it says Angels will lift Allah.

Commentary of Ibne Kathir says;

(And the angels will be on its sides,) The word Malak here is referring to the species of angels (all of them); meaning the angels collectively will be standing on the sides of the heavens. Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said concerning Allah's statement,

﴿وَالْمَلَكُ عَلَى أَرْجَآئِهَآ﴾

(And the angels will be on its sides,) "This means that they will be standing on what has been ground to powder of the heavens looking at the people of the earth.'




Agniveer states:
Thus,

a. Allah is definitely finite because he will be lifted by people of finite size.

Response

No where the ayah says Angels will lift Allah
2ndly;

A man asked Imam Malik (d. 179): "How did Allah make istiwa' on the throne?" Imam Malik inclined his head and was silent until the sweat of fever covered his brow, then he looked up and said: "Istiwa' is not unknown (ghayru majhul), the modality of it is inconceivable in the mind (al-kayfu minhu ghayru ma`qul); but belief in it is obligatory, and inquiring about it is a heretical innovation. You are an innovator." And he gave orders for him to be taken out.



In Asool ul Aiteqaad PAGE 398 AND 399

Imam Malik also said;

وأخرج الهروي عن أشهب بن عبد العزيز قال : سمعت مالكاً يقول : إيّاكم والبدع ، قيل يا أبا عبد الله ، وما البدع ؟ قال : أهل البدع الذين يتكلمون في أسماء الله وصفاته وكلامه وعِلْمه وقدرته ولا يسكتون عمّا سكت عنه الصحابة والتابعون لهم بإحسان

Ashhab bin Abdul Aziz said: I heard the Malik saying: "Beware of innovations, it was said, O Abu Abdullah, and what is innovation? He said: the people of innovation are those who speak regarding the names and attributes of God and his speech and his knowledge and ability and do not remain silent about where the companions were silent and the tabiuun. ذم الكلام ( ق173 – أ )




Agniveer states:
b. Allah has to be smaller than the throne he sits on, at least in width.

Response:
No one believes that Allah sits on throne it has been clarified before.

Throne covers all of creation and is above it. The kayfiyyah (reality; how-ness) of Allah’s Istiwa is unknown to us, as Allah has not informed us, nor did His Messenger –sallallahu alayhi wa salamm-, on the details of this matter, and it is not permissable to ask about the reality,howness of His Attributes. Allah Almighty alone knows how He Rose (Istawa) over His Throne, and our duty is to believe and submit.



Agniveer states:
4. Surate Sijada 5 says that He manages affairs of earth and then rises up to the sky in one Godly day which equals 1000 human years.

Now, how can someone who moves up and down in 1000 years be shapeless.

Some experts say that this description is for angels. Even if that be so, if angels take 1000 years to reach him, that also means that Allah is finite and limited in space. Because one need not travel to reach someone who is present everywhere.

Response
No where this verse says that ALLAH moves up and down in 1000 years, it is an utter lie, and how cleverly he said some experts say that this is description for angles. In fact it is not some experts but all the Muslims say it is not for Allah nor this ayah is for Angels, but this is for deeds and affairs.

The ayat is here:

[032:005] He arranges (every) affair from the heavens to the earth, then it (affair) will go up to Him, in one Day, the space whereof is a thousand years of your reckoning (i.e. reckoning of our present worlds time).(Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan)

Ibne Kathir Commented

This is like the Ayah, ﴿اللَّهُ الَّذِى خَلَقَ سَبْعَ سَمَـوَتٍ وَمِنَ الاٌّرْضِ مِثْلَهُنَّ يَتَنَزَّلُ الاٌّمْرُ بَيْنَهُنَّ﴾

(It is Allah Who has created seven heavens and of the earth the like thereof. The command descends between them, ) (65:12) Deeds are raised up to the place of recording above the lowest heaven.




Agniveer states:
This is further emphasized in Surate-Maariz Ayat 4 which states that Spirits and Angels rise up to him in 50,000 years.

Now whether the actual time taken is 50,000 years or 1000 years is another contradiction in Quran which proves that it is defective or interpolated. But regardless of that, the finite shape and limited scope of Allah is proven.

Response
This accusation is already replied see here http://ilovezakirnaik.com/misconceptions/b14.htm



Extracted from above link;

1. Time of Allah is incomparable to earthly time

The Qur’an says in two verses, (22:47 and 32:5), that the measure of one day in the sight of Allah is equal to 1,000 years of our reckoning. In another verse (70:4) it says that the measure of one day in the sight of Allah is equal to 50,000 years of our reckoning.

These verses generally mean that the time of Allah (swt) is incomparable to the earthly time. The examples given are of one thousand years and fifty thousand years of the earthly time. In other words thousands of years or a very, very long time of the earth is a day in the sight of Allah.



2. Yaum also means Period

The Arabic word used in all these three verses is yaum, which, besides meaning a day also means a long period, or an epoch. If you translate the word yaum correctly as ‘period’ there will be no confusion.

a) The verse from Surah Hajj reads as:

"Yet they ask thee to hasten on the Punishment! but Allah will not fail in His promise. Verily a Day in the sight of thy Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning".[Al-Qur’an 22:47]

When the unbelievers asked to hasten the punishment the Qur’an says Allah will not fail in His promise. Verily a period in the sight of Allah is like a thousand years of your reckoning.

b) The verse from Surah Al-Sajdah says:

"He rules (all) affairs from the heavens to the earth: in the end will (all affairs) go up? To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be (as) a thousand years of your reckoning".[Al-Qur’an 32:5]

This verse indicates that a period required for all the affairs to go up to Allah (swt), is a thousand years of our reckoning.

c) A verse from Surah Al-Maarij says:

"The angels and the spirit ascend unto Him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years".[Al-Qur’an 70:4]

This verse means that the period required for angels and the spirits to ascend unto Allah (swt) is fifty thousand years.

d) The period for two different acts need not be the same. For example the period required for me to travel to destination ‘A’ say Vashi is one hour and the period required for me to travel to destination ‘B’ i.e. Kashmir is 50 hours. This does not indicate that I am making two contradictory statements.

Thus the verses of the Qur’an don’t contradict each other and they are in perfect harmony with established modern scientific facts.

Check also: http://www.answering-christianity.com/karim/i004_rebuttal.htm




Agniveer states:
5. Sura-e-vakiya 9,10 describe Heaven and Hell. It says that Heaven is on right side of Allah’ throne and Hell on left side. Tafseer Husaini elaborates further that those who will go to Hell will go towards left of throne and those who will go to Heaven will go to right of the throne.

This proves that the throne is limited in space. Obviously, one who sits on a limited space is also limited.

Response:

I wonder if he ever read holy Qur’an! Here are the verse 9,10 of surah waqiyah:

[056:009] And those on the Left Hand (i.e. those who will be given their Record in their left hands), Who will be those on the Left Hand? (As a disgrace for them, because they will enter Hell).

[056:010] And those foremost ((in Islamic Faith of Monotheism and in performing righteous deeds) in the life of this world on the very first call for to embrace Islam,) will be foremost (in Paradise).(Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan)



So these verses are about those who will be given their Record of deeds in their left hands.

Tafsir Jalalyain says:

And those of the left [hand] (al-mash’ama means al-shimāl, ‘left’), each of whom is given his record [of deeds] in their left hands — what of those of the left [hand]? — an expression of contempt for their status on account of their admittance into the Fire.

Tafsir At Tasturi says:

And those of the left hand, what of those of the left [ hand]?
This means those who are given the book [of deeds] in their left hand.


Agniveer states:
6. Surate Airaf 143 states that when Allah saw the hill, it broke into pieces and Moses went unconscious. Obviously Moses must have witnessed lightning and got unnecessarily scared. But what is obvious is that the light in Allah’s eyes was finite and limited to size of the hill. So Allah has a finite-sized eye and hence is limited in shape and power.

Response

This is the ayah 143 of SURAH AARAF;

[007:143] And when Moosa (Moses) came at the time and place appointed by Us, and his Lord spoke to him, he said: "O my Lord! Show me (Yourself), that I may look upon You." Allah said: "You cannot see Me, but look upon the mountain if it stands still in its place then you shall see Me." So when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He made it collapse to dust, and Moosa (Moses) fell down unconscious. Then when he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to You, I turn to You in repentance and I am the first of the believers."(Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan)

No where this Ayah says Allah saw the hill now see the commentaries.

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Ibne Kathir commented:

Musnad Imam Ahmad recorded from Anas bin Malik that the Prophet said about Allah's saying;

(And when his Lord appeared to the mountain, )

(Like this) then he held out the tip of his little finger. At-Tirmidhi recorded this in the chapter of Tafsir for this Ayah, then he said; "This Hadith is Hasan Sahih Gharib.'' This was also recorded by Al-Hakim in his Mustadrak through the route of Hamad bin Salamah, and he said; "This Hadith is Sahih according to the criteria of Muslim and they did not record it.'' And As-Suddi reported that `Ikrimah reported from Ibn `Abbas about Allah's saying,

(And when his Lord appeared to the mountain,) Only the extent of the little finger appeared from Him.



Tafsir of Jalal`yan says:

And when his Lord revealed Himself, that is, [when] He manifested of His Light the equivalent of half a nail of a little finger, as stated in one hadīth verified by al-Hākim, to the mountain He leveled it to the ground (end).

So here we can see Allah manifested His Light the equivalent of half a nail of the little finger, and Allah Has Power over Everything.




Agniveer states:
7. Surat-Noor Ayat 35 says that Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The example of His light is like a niche within which is a lamp, the lamp is within glass, the glass as if it were a pearly [white] star lit from [the oil of] a blessed olive tree, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil would almost glow even if untouched by fire. Light upon light. Allah guides to His light whom He wills.

After analyzing countless commentaries, I failed to understand the meaning of this confusing Ayat. But what is important is that Allah is not beyond physical descriptions. What is lamp, glass or olive is beyond comprehension.

Response

First of all which tafsir agniveer studied?? So far he is quoting from the unknown “tafsir husaini”.

Well here is the ayah with commentaries.

[024:035] Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable of His Light is as (if there were) a niche and within it a lamp, the lamp is in glass, the glass as it were a brilliant star, lit from a blessed tree, an olive, neither of the east (i.e. neither it gets sun-rays only in the morning) nor of the west (i.e. nor it gets sun-rays only in the afternoon, but it is exposed to the sun all day long), whose oil would almost glow forth (of itself), though no fire touched it. Light upon Light! Allah guides to His Light whom He wills. And Allah sets forth parables for mankind, and Allah is All-Knower of everything.(end) (Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan)



Tafsir Ibne Kathir says:

Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn `Abbas said:

(Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth.) means, the Guide of the inhabitants of the heavens and the earth. Ibn Jurayj said: "Mujahid and Ibn `Abbas said concerning the Ayah:

(Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth.) He is controlling their affairs and their stars and sun and moon.'' As-Suddi said concerning the Ayah:



(Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth.) by His Light the heavens and earth are illuminated. In the Two Sahihs, it is recorded that Ibn `Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, said: "When the Messenger of Allah got up to pray at night, he would say:



(O Allah, to You be praise, You are the Sustainer of heaven and earth and whoever is in them. To You be praise, You are the Light of the heavens and the earth and whoever is in them. ) It was narrated that Ibn Mas`ud said, "There is no night or day with your Lord; the Light of the Throne comes from the Light of His Face.''



(The parable of His Light) There are two views concerning the meaning of the pronoun (His). The first is that it refers to Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, meaning that the parable of His guidance in the heart of the believer is (As a niche) this was the view of Ibn `Abbas.



The second view is that this pronoun refers to the believer, which is indicated by the context of the words and implies that the parable of the light in the heart of the believer is as a niche. So the heart of the believer and what he is naturally inclined to of guidance and what he learns of the Qur'an which is in accordance with his natural inclinations are, as Allah says:



(Can they who rely on a clear proof from their Lord, and whom a witness from Him recite it (can they be equal with the disbelievers)) ﴿ 11:17 ﴾ . The heart of the believer in its purity and clarity is likened to a lamp in transparent and jewel-like glass, and the Qur'an and Shari`ah by which it is guided are likened to good, pure, shining oil in which there is no impurity or deviation.



(As (if there were) a niche) Ibn `Abbas, Mujahid, Muhammad bin Ka`b and others said, "This refers to the position of the wick in the lamp.'' This is well-known, and hence Allah then says:



(and within it a lamp.) This is the flame that burns brightly. Or it was said that the niche is a niche in the house. This is the parable given by Allah of obedience towards Him. Allah calls obedience to Him as light, then He calls it by other numerous names as well. Ubayy bin Ka`b said, "The lamp is the light, and this refers to the Qur'an and the faith that is in his heart.'' As-Suddi said, "It is the lamp.''



(the lamp is in a glass,) means, this light is shining in a clear glass. Ubayy bin Ka`b and others said, "This is the likeness of the heart of the believer.''



(the glass as it were a star Durriyyun,) Some authorities recite the word Durriyyun with a Dammah on the Dal and without a Hamzah, which means pearls, i.e., as if it were a star made of pearls (Durr). Others recite it as Dirri'un or Durri'un, with a Kasrah on the Dal, or Dammah on the Dal, and with a Hamzah at the end, which means reflection (Dir'), because if something is shone on the star it becomes brighter than at any other time. The Arabs call the stars they do not know Darari. Ubayy bin Ka`b said: a shining star. Qatadah said: "Huge, bright and clear.''

(lit from a blessed tree,) means, it is derived from olive oil, from a blessed tree.

(an olive,) This refers to the blessed tree mentioned previously.



(neither of the east nor of the west,) means, it is not in the eastern part of the land so that it does not get any sun in the first part of the day, nor is it in the western part of the land so that it is shaded from the sun before sunset, but it is in a central position where it gets sun from the beginning of the day until the end, so its oil is good and pure and shining. Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that Ibn `Abbas commented on:



(an olive, neither of the east nor of the west,) "This is a tree in the desert which is not shaded by any other tree or mountain or cave, nothing covers it, and this is best for its oil.'' Mujahid commented on:



(neither of the east nor of the west, ) saying; "It is not in the east where it will get no sun when the sun sets, nor is it in the west where it will get no sun when the sun rises, but it is in a position where it will get sun both at sunrise and sunset.'' Sa`id bin Jubayr commented:



(an olive, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil would almost glow forth (of itself)) "This is the best kind of oil. When the sun rises it reaches the tree from the east and when it sets it reaches it from the west, so the sun reaches it morning and evening, so it is not counted as being in the east or in the west.''



(whose oil would almost glow forth (of itself), though no fire touched it.) `Abdur-Rahman bin Zayd bin Aslam said (this means) because the oil itself is shining.



(Light upon Light!) Al-`Awfi narrated from Ibn `Abbas that this meant the faith and deeds of a person. As-Suddi said:



(Light upon Light!) "Light of the fire and the light of the oil: when they are combined they give light, and neither of them can give light without the other. Similarly the light of the Qur'an and the light of faith give light when they are combined, and neither can do so without the other.''



(Allah guides to His Light whom He wills.) means, Allah shows the way to the ones whom He chooses, as it says in the Hadith recorded by Imam Ahmad from `Abdullah bin `Amr, who said, "I heard the Messenger of Allah saying:



(Allah created His creation in darkness, then on the same day He sent His Light upon them. Whoever was touched by His Light on that day will be guided and whoever was missed will be led astray. Hence I say: the pens have dried in accordance with the knowledge of Allah, may He be glorified.)''



(And Allah sets forth parables for mankind, and Allah is All-Knower of everything.) Having mentioned this parable of the Light of His guidance in the heart of the believer, Allah ends this Ayah with the words:



(And Allah sets forth parables for mankind, and Allah is All-Knower of everything.) meaning, He knows best who deserves to be guided and who deserves to be led astray. Imam Ahmad recorded that Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri said, "The Messenger of Allah said:



(Hearts are of four kinds: the heart that is clear like a shining lamp; the heart that is covered and tied up; the heart that is upside-down; and the heart that is clad in armor. As for the clear heart, it is the heart of the believer in which is a lamp filled with light; as for the covered heart, this is the heart of the disbeliever; as for the upside-down heart, this is the heart of the hypocrite, who recognizes then denies; as for the armor-clad heart, this is the heart in which there is both faith and hypocrisy. The parable of the faith in it is that of legume, a sprout that is irrigated with good water, and the likeness of the hypocrisy in it is that of sores that are fed by blood and pus. Whichever of the two prevails is the characteristic that will dominate.) Its chain of narrators is good (Jayyid) although they (Al-Bukhari and Muslim) did not record it.(end quote from tafsir Ibne Kathir)

I wonder if he read tafsir Ibne Kathir as agniveer said: After analyzing countless commentaries, I failed to understand the meaning of this confusing Ayat.

Agniveer is advised NOT to comment on an ayah which he couldn’t apprehend. This is not sensible to comment on an ayah which is still to b understood.




Agniveer states
8. Surah-Bakr 33 to 39, Surate Airaf 9 to 15, Surate Swad 70 to 78 etc describe Allah’s discussions with Angels, Adam and Satan. Adam was allowed to enter Heaven after lot of lecturing. Angels refused to bow to Adam out of ego but then agreed. Satan refused to bow to Adam because Satan believed that none other than Allah deserves to be bowed. Allah gave time of three days to Satan but he still refused. Then Allah cursed him.

Thus Allah is one who scares, threatens, curses and gives excuses. Thus Allah is not an omnipresent, rational perfect being but an entity limited in scope and subject to whims and moods.

Response

This person need some rest, see the ayahs nowhere any of the ayah says Angels refused to bow to Adam peace be upon him out of ego, these are verses from Al Baqarah

[002:033] He said: "O Adam! Inform them of their names," and when he had informed them of their names, He said: "Did I not tell you that I know the Ghaib (unseen) in the heavens and the earth, and I know what you reveal and what you have been concealing?"

[002:034] And (remember) when We said to the angels: "Prostrate yourselves before Adam." And they prostrated except Iblees (Satan), he refused and was proud and was one of the disbelievers (disobedient to Allah).

[002:035] And We said: "O Adam! Dwell you and your wife in the Paradise and eat both of you freely with pleasure and delight of things therein as wherever you will, but come not near this tree or you both will be of the Zalimoon (wrong-doers)."

[002:036] Then the Shaitan (Satan) made them slip therefrom (the Paradise), and got them out from that in which they were. We said: "Get you down, all, with enmity between yourselves. On earth will be a dwelling place for you and an enjoyment for a time."

[002:037] Then Adam received from his Lord Words. And his Lord pardoned him (accepted his repentance). Verily, He is the One Who forgives (accepts repentance), the Most Merciful.

[002:038] We said: "Get down all of you from this place (the Paradise), then whenever there comes to you Guidance from Me, and whoever follows My Guidance, there shall be no fear on them, nor shall they grieve.

[002:039] But those who disbelieve and belie Our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) such are the dwellers of the Fire, they shall abide therein forever.(Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan)



These are ayahs from Al A`raf

[007:009] And as for those whose scale will be light, they are those who will lose their ownselves (by entering Hell) because they denied and rejected Our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.).

[007:010] And surely, We gave you authority on the earth and appointed for you therein provisions (for your life). Little thanks do you give.

[007:011] And surely, We created you (your father Adam) and then gave you shape (the noble shape of a human being), then We told the angels, "Prostrate to Adam", and they prostrated, except Iblees (Satan), he refused to be of those who prostrate.

[007:012] (Allah) said: "What prevented you (O Iblees) that you did not prostrate, when I commanded you?" Iblees said: "I am better than him (Adam), You created me from fire, and him You created from clay."

[007:013] (Allah) said: "(O Iblees) get down from this (Paradise), it is not for you to be arrogant here. Get out, for you are of those humiliated and disgraced."

[007:014] (Iblees) said: "Allow me respite till the Day they are raised up (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)."

[007:015] (Allah) said: "You are of those allowed respite." (Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan)



From surah As Sa`d

[038:070] "Only this has been inspired to me, that I am a plain warner."

[038:071] (Remember) when your Lord said to the angels: "Truly, I am going to create man from clay".

[038:072] So when I have fashioned him and breathed into him (his) soul created by Me, then you fall down prostrate to him."

[038:073] So the angels prostrated themselves, all of them:

[038:074] Except Iblees (Satan) he was proud and was one of the disbelievers.

[038:075] (Allah) said: "O Iblees (Satan)! What prevents you from prostrating yourself to one whom I have created with Both My Hands. Are you too proud (to fall prostrate to Adam) or are you one of the high exalted?"

[038:076] (Iblees (Satan)) said: "I am better than he, You created me from fire, and You created him from clay."

[038:077] (Allah) said: "Then get out from here, for verily, you are outcast.

[038:078] "And verily! My Curse is on you till the Day of Recompense." (Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan)

No where any of the ayah mentioned (as he claim) Adam was allowed to enter Heaven after lot of lecturing. Angels refused to bow to Adam out of ego but then agreed.




and agniveer claimed regarding satan:
Satan refused to bow to Adam because Satan believed that none other than Allah deserves to be bowed. Allah gave time of three days to Satan but he still refused.

First of all from where he get that Allah gave time of three days?? 2ndly this bowing is not bowing of worship because worshiping is only for Allah. (This is not the time for detailed discussion on bowing of worship).




Agniveer states
9. Surate Swad 75 has Allah claiming that I made Adam with my two hands. Thus showing that Allah has two hands and hence is a finite person with human form. If the use of ‘two hands’ is merely allegorical, then what is special about Adam. All entities have been built by Allah as per Quran.


Response
When someone doesn’t know about attributes of Allah he should keep quiet, As I already quoted ayah There is nothing like unto him, and I already said someone who matches attributes of Allah with His creation is not a Muslim.

Let us see the Ayah and understandings of Muhadditheen.

[038:075] (Allah) said: "O Iblees (Satan)! What prevents you from prostrating yourself to one whom I have created with Both My Hands. Are you too proud (to fall prostrate to Adam) or are you one of the high exalted?" (Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan)

Imam At-Tirmidhee (d. 279H) said in his Sunan (1/128-129),

وقد قال غير واحد من أهل العلم في هذا الحديث وما يشبه هذا من الروايات من الصفات ونزول الرب تبارك وتعالى كل ليلة إلى السماء الدنيا قالوا قد تثبت الروايات في هذا ويؤمن بها ولا يُتَوَهَّم ولا يقال كيف . هكذا روي عن مالك و سفيان بن عيينة و عبد الله بن المبارك أنهم قالوا في هذه الأحاديث أمروها بلا كيف وهكذا قول أهل العلم من أهل السنة والجماعة وأما الجهمية فأنكرت هذه الروايات وقالوا هذا تشبيه وقد ذكر الله عز وجل في غير موضع من كتابه اليد والسمع والبصر فتأولت الجهمية هذه الآيات ففسروها على غير ما فسر أهل العلم وقالوا إن الله لم يخلق آدم بيده وقالوا إن معنى اليد ههنا القوة وقال إسحق بن إبراهيم [الراهويه ] إنما يكون التشبيه إذا قال يد كيد أو مثل يد أو سمع كسمع أو مثل سمع فإذا قال سمع كسمع أو مثل سمع فهذا التشبيه وأما إذا قال كما قال الله تعالى يد وسمع وبصر ولا يقول كيف ولا يقول مثل سمع ولا كسمع فهذا لا يكون تشبيها وهو كما قال الله تعالى في كتابه : ليس كمثله شيء وهو السميع البصير




It has been stated by more than one person from the People of Knowledge about such ahaadeeth, that there is no tashbeeh (resemblance) to the Attributes of Allaah, and our Lord - the Blessed and Most High - descends to the lowest heaven every night. So they say: "Affirm these narrations, have Eemaan (faith) in them, do not deny them, nor ask how." The likes of this has been related from Maalik ibn Anas, Sufyaan ath-Thawree, Ibn Uyainah and Abdullaah ibn al-Mubaarak, who all said about such ahaadeeth: "Leave them as they are, without asking how." .....Ishaaq ibn Ibraheem [ar-Raahawaih] said:



Tashbeeh is if it is said: "Hand like my hand, or similar to my hand", or it is said: "Hearing like my Hearing, or similar to my hearing", then this is tashbeeh. But if what is being said is what Allah has said: Hand, Hearing, Seeing and it is not asked how, nor is it said: "Like my hearing, or similar to my hearing" - then it is not tashbeeh. Allaah, the Most Blessed, Most High, said in His Book (ash-Shooraa 42:11): "There is none like unto Him, and he is the all-Hearing, the all-Seeing"

source of Tirmidhee: http://hadith.al-islam.com/Page.aspx?pageid=192&BookID=26&PID=598

Source of Translation: http://www.aqidah.com/creed/articles/dqxkb-the-creed-of-abu-bakr-al-ismaaeelee-d-371h-and-refutation-of-the-ashariyyah-jahmiyyah.cfm


Brother Bassam Zawadi quoted in his refutation of another anti Islamic person sam shamoun;



Al Imam al-Dhahabi says:

"Why do you say? A hand in reality is this bodily limb'? Rather, a 'hand' is homonym, and it is in accordance with, and of the same category of what it is attributed to. Therefore, if the thing described therewith is an animal then the hand would be a bodily limb. If it were was statue made of brass and stone, the hand would also be of brass and stone. If it were an image drawn on the wall, the hand would be a drawing. If it were that of which neither there is a like, nor it is a body, the hand would also be that of which neither there is a like, nor it is a body"

He also says:

"If it is said: In its conventional usage, a hand only refers to the limb that we all know of. We would say in reply: Similarly, in conventional usage, knowledge, hearing and seeing are only accidents that subsist in bodies. Where, then, is the difference?" (Ithbat al-Yad lilLahi subhanah p. 42-44 by al-Imam al-Dhahabi)

Indeed, the same logic applies to the face and shin and the rest of Allah's attributes.



We say that Allah has knowledge. However, humans also have knowledge. So are we making Allah similar to His creation? Of course not, How come you might ask? The answer is because God's knowledge is not like ours (His is infinite and He doesn't need to acquire it). Therefore, why don't we remain consistent and say the rest regarding all of Allah's attributes such as His Hand and Face?



To know more about the inconsistency of those that take some of God's attributes metaphorically please refer to the following articles.

http://www.spubs.com/sps/sp.cfm?subsecID=AQD12&articleID=AQD120010&articlePages=1

http://www.spubs.com/sps/sp.cfm?subsecID=AQD12&articleID=AQD120009&articlePages=1

http://www.spubs.com/sps/sp.cfm?subsecID=AQD12&articleID=AQD120008&articlePages=1

source: http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/rebuttal_to_sam_shamoun_s_article__where_is_allah_exactly_




Agniveer states
10. Surate Shura 51 states that it is impossible for humans except through angels, through curtains and symbols that Allah talks to them.

Now if Allah is within all humans, there should be a mechanism by which Allah talks to them. Why would omnipresent Allah use curtain, symbol or angels?

Tafseer Husaini states explaining this Ayat that Allah talked to Muhammad between two curtains. One curtain was made of white pearls and other was embroidered with precious metals. This means Allah was also limited in space and within the curtains. Hence Islamic Allah is a small creature.

Response

This is the ayah

[026:051] "Verily! We really hope that our Lord will forgive us our sins, as we are the first of the believers (in Moosa (Moses) and in the Monotheism which he has brought from Allah)."(Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan)

Now one can see what the author is saying and what the ayah actually is. Where does this ayah talk about Allah who is with in humans or talks to humans through curtains or angels?? I don't know from where he is getting this material. This ayah doesn’t say a word about curtain or angels.

And please what is this tafsir hussaini and who is its author , please mention and give source of this tafsir as this is the unknown text and no muslim likes to quote from an unclear , unknown reference which itself is not in accordance with Islamic rules and Islamic knowledge.




Agniveer states
Surate Nisa 64 states that Rasul (Muhammad) has come with true facts and hence he should be believed. Even Rasul has talked to Allah through curtain, symbols or angels. Thus there is a likelihood that Rasul has also been subject to confusion, since he did not directly witness Allah.

And that Allah becomes a finite entity not already present within all humans including Rasul.

Response

This is what the concerned ayah says;

[004:064] We sent no Messenger, but to be obeyed by Allah’s Leave. If they (hypocrites), when they had been unjust to themselves, had come to you (Muhammad SAW) and begged Allah’s Forgiveness, and the Messenger had begged forgiveness for them: indeed, they would have found Allah All-Forgiving (One Who accepts repentance), Most Merciful. (Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan)



I don't know what is he concluding from this ayah?? It is simply about those munafiqeen (hypocrites) or Specific Jew at the time of Prophet Peace be upon him (see commentary of Muhammad bin Jareer Tabree under this ayah).

And who says ALLAH is in rasool s.a.w.w or in any human being? From where has the author learnt this regarding islam? Within humans, there is a soul, and no ALLAH. The author(agniveer) needs to, first, clarify is basics of islam before writing and jumping into religious debates.




Agniveer states
11. Surate Fazar 22 claims that Allah will come alongwith angels in a queue during doomsday. Now obviously this coming of Allah is physical. Because if this implies coming of Allah in hearts, how can he come in hearts of the sinners whose heart is still dirty? And if the hearts of sinners are purified, why send them to Hell?

Further Ayats detail that Hell is on left side of Allah’s throne and Heaven on right side. Thus there is no doubt that the Allah of Quran is a finite sized person.

Response
This is Surah Al Fajr (not Fazar) ayah 22;

[89:22] And your Lord comes with the angels in rows.



Tafsir of Jalalayn says:

And your Lord, that is to say, His command, and the angels arrive rank on rank (saffan saffan is a circumstantial qualifier, meaning ‘standing in rows’ or ‘made up of many ranks’),

So this is regarding his Command



Tafsir Ibne Kathir says:

(And your Lord comes) meaning, for the session of Judgment between His creatures. This is after they requested the best of the Sons of Adam – Muhammad(SAW) -- to intercede with Allah. This will occur only after they have requested the other great Messengers, one after another. Yet, all of them will say, "I cannot do that for you.'' This will continue until the beseeching of the men reaches Muhammad (SAW), and He will say, "I will do it, I will do it.'' So He will go and seek to intercede with Allah as the session of Judgment will have come, and Allah will allow him to intercede for that (the Judgment). This will be the first of the intercessions, and it is the praiseworthy station that has already been discussed in Surat Subhan (Al-Isra'). So Allah will come for the session of Judgment as He wills, and the angels will also come, lined up in rows upon rows before Him.(end)



The bottom line is Allah has power over all things and he will come as he wills and which suits His Majesty, We cannot match Him with His creation. agniveer states that Further ayats detail that Hell is on left side of Allah’s throne and Heaven on right side.

Where does these ayahs say that? see ayah no: 20 to 30



[089:020] And you love wealth with much love!

[089:021] Nay! When the earth is ground to powder,

[089:022] And your Lord comes with the angels in rows,

[089:023] And Hell will be brought near that Day. On that Day will man remember, but how will that remembrance (then) avail him?

[089:024] He will say: "Alas! Would that I had sent forth (good deeds) for (this) my life!"

[089:025] So on that Day, none will punish as He will punish.

[089:026] And none will bind as He will bind.

[089:027] (It will be said to the pious): "O (you) the one in (complete) rest and satisfaction!

[089:028] "Come back to your Lord, Well-pleased (yourself) and well-pleasing unto Him!

[089:029] "Enter you, then, among My honoured slaves,

[089:030] "And enter you My Paradise!" (Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan)




Agniveer states
12. Some may claim that these verses have deep meanings that we cannot understand. If that be so, then the entire purpose of sending Quran is futile. Because already there were so many messages of Allah present. What is the point of sending a last and final message that is so confusing and impossible for humans to understand in one birth?

Response

Already replied above (smile), response of his accusations against Qu`ran is completed Alhumdulillah.




Agniveer states
The concept of Ishwar in Vedas, the first text of humankind is significantly different. And that is why the Allah of Quran is not same as Ishwar of Vedas.

Response

He claimed that Vedas are first text of human kind which is nothing but a mere claim and even if true then we say it is corrupted. And author is asked to PROVE that Vedas are the first text of human kind. Hope in the next article author will prove this.





3) Replying Agniveer's 7 points on the concept of God in Vedas (a) to (g).




Agniveer states
a. Ishwar is omnipresent and shapeless. Refer Yajurved 40.8.

First thing,Yajurved Samitha has two recessions 1) Shukla Yajurved and 2) Krishna Yajurved, Krishna Yajurved is older one, Agniveer is giving refrence from Shukla Yajurved, he should mention this.

Proof about Ishwar not omnipresent and being in his heavenly house
Rig Veda Mandal 8; Sukt 13; Mantra 2

In his expansive heavenly mansion, is the location of Ishwar, he who brings success,

Most glorious, prompt to save, who wins the water-floods.



The sanskrit word used for heavenly location is VYOMAN SADNAY and swamiji says that "Ishwar vyapak bhavan mein stith hokar".Now I will give you individual meaning of the hindi words.
व्यापक = expansive, broad, wide
भवन = castle, mansion, premises, house, building
स्थित = located, situated, set, placed
now if you want to say that verse say this then it will be contrary to this verse

Now I will show you from your Veda that Ishwar has form and body. Also I will show you the deception of Swami Dayanand Saraswati when he left 12 words untranslated which said Ishwar has a body. I will also show you how Swamiji changes translation to suit is theological understanding that Ishwar is formless.
Let me first show you how Swamiji has consistently translated the sanskrit word AGNI as "Ishwar" or "parmeshwar" everywhere. I will give only 2 samples so that it doesn't become too long. See the images below








In both the above images Swamiji has translated AGNI as "Hey Parmeshwar" "O Ishwar" The references for the above images are: Yajur Veda Adhyay 1; Mantra 17 and 18
Now see the image below

Here Swamiji left 12 words untranslated. You know why? Read carefully what it says. You and Arya Samaj believe that Ishwar is Niraakaar (formless) but the Mantra was saying
AGNI = Ishwar
TANU = embodied
ASI = is/has
It is saying Ishwar has a form/ body

Let us move forward. There is another place in Yajur Veda where the same above words have been used. The very first Mantra of 5th Adhyay of Yajur Veda,i.e., Yajur Veda Adhyay 5; Mantra 1

See the image below. Here fortunately Swamiji has not taken out words but unfortunately has mistranslated it. See below




Here Swamiji has broken his own rule. The same word Agni appears here also, but he mistranslated it as
बिजुली प्रसिद्ध रूप अग्नि के शरीर समान है
while as the correct translation as per Swamijis own rules is.
AGNI = Ishwar
TANU = body शरीर
ASI = is/has है

So the Mantra is saying परमेश्वर शरीर धारी है "parmeshwar shareer dhaari hai". Ishwar has a body/form.

you say Ishwar of Vedas is omnipresent and formless but The above evidence shows an opposite picture




Agniveer states:
b. There is no throne of Ishwar because He is already present everywhere.

Response:

Rig Veda mandal 10; sukt 129; mantra 9
"He, the first origin of this creation, whether he formed it all or did not form it,
Whose eye controls this world he in highest heaven, he verily knows it, or perhaps he knows not."



This is what ved says and agniveer is contradicting this statement

Agniveer states
c. Ishwar does not need to send messengers, angels, symbols or curtains to talk to humans. Ishwar communicates with all souls through inspiration. Whenever we do a right act, we get a feeling of satisfaction, enthusiasm or bliss. When we do something wrong, we get a feeling of fear, doubt or shame. This is the way Ishwar communicates with all souls.

Response:

This is mere statement of agniveer who is not authority, even if this is true then he said Ishwar communicates will all souls, then tell us how many hindus and christians and Muslims and atheists and all others communicated with God?? And he said (Whenever we do a right act, we get a feeling of satisfaction, enthusiasm or bliss. When we do something wrong, we get a feeling of fear, doubt or shame.) Tell us who is to decide what is right and what is wrong?? Maybe for me what is right is wrong for you and what is right for you are wrong for me, for example some people tease others and according to them it is right to tease but according to some people teasing is not right thing, who is to decide that what is wrong and what is right?? By your logic people will understand that god told teaser through inspiration that teasing is right and same God told the one who is against teaser that Teasing is wrong
Regarding your objection to using the angel as medium of communication. This is God's prerogative. He can choose whatever way He sees fit and doesn't need counsel from you. He is the Most Wise and your shortsightedness stands nowhere before God's knowledge and Wisdom.
Nowhere did Muslims ever say that God talks as we humans talk. God communicates in our human language coz that is the only language we understand.

In Islam Allah knows everything but is separate from the creation and above His creation. He is not the creation. Thus your conception is incorrect since you claim that God is in you and me. Let me correct your fallacies. All creatures do not have eyes and ears. So do you mean they do not know their surroundings? Many creatures use so many diverse methods of communication. Human talking is only one form of communication. If you say God communicates, then I would ask you that are you not ascribing animal qualities to God, since animals, insects, etc communicate as well?

I hope you realize the fallacies of your arguments and come to the truth of Islam.




Agniveer states:
d. Those in direction of Ishwar follow this language of Ishwar and develop mastery over the tendencies of their minds. Thus the signals of Ishwar become clearer and clearer. In perfect form, the knowledge of Vedas is revealed. In reality the Vedas are already within us. However through efforts, we have to get rid of ignorance to illuminate the Vedas.

Response:

This is a lie that Vedas are within us, ask any one he will never say ved is in me, at least Vedas is not within me, 2ndly he atleast agreed God of ved has direction and there is also language of Ishwar.
The problem with Hinduism is that you philosophize everything, which ultimately is harmful for you. Islam is simply revelation based and we do not philosophize coz we do not need to. Islam is simple and easy to understand unlike the philosophical conundrums of Hinduism.




Agniveer states
e. There is no heaven or hell as per Vedas. He neither punishes or rewards in Islamic sense. He simply creates opportunities for soul for its further progress as per the tendencies of mind which are further determined by our thoughts, words and actions.

Response

Paradise 'Swarga' in the Vedas:
1. 'Swarg' i.e. Paradise, is described in several places in the Vedas including: "May all these streams of butter, with their banks of honey, flowing with distilled water, and milk and curds and water reach thee in domestic life enhancing thy pleasure. May thou acquire completely these things strengthening the soul in diverse ways. Having pools of clarified butter, stocks of sweet honey, and having exhilarating drinks for water, full of milk and curds, may all these streams flow to us in the world of happiness swelling sweetly. May our lakes full of lotuses be situated near us." (Atharva Ved: 4: 34: 6)



2. "Bereft of physical bodies, pure, cleansed with the wind, brilliant, they go to a brilliant world. The fire does not cause burning in their male organ. In the world of happiness they get plenty of women. (Atharva Ved: 4: 34: 2)



Your statement is contrary to vedas itself how much lie will you say
If there is no heaven and hell no reward and punishment then it is good for Rapist and lairs and theif and all others, Hitler killed millions of people no punishment for him, on the other hand Their is true concept of punishment and rewards after death and Allah can punish bad people not once but millions of times.




Agniveer states
f. Vedas do not believe that Ishwar suddenly created souls. Vedas state that the soul, nature and Ishwar are eternal and always present. And thus creation of universe, its maintenance and destruction are natural eternal properties of Ishwar. Hence the allegation of whimsicalness, moodiness etc do not come on Ishwar.

Response:

He should provide refrences not just mere statements, what reply we can give to him who is not even authority?? he said soul and ishwar are always present, then where is his soul?? is it present with me?? of where are souls of all hindus?? all are present?? This is very weired concept
about moodiness see this

Proof about Ishwar's anger

Atharva Veda kand 11; sukt 2; Mantra 20.
"Injure us not, interpose for us, spare us, be not angry with us! Let us not contend with thee!"




Agniveer states
g. More importantly, since Ishwar is perfect, there is no need for Him to keep sending new amendments of his message every now and then. He simply communicates the eternal Vedas during inception of civilization and then continues to guide us through inspiration, as discussed above.

Response

Allah never changed the basic rule that is THERE IS NO ILAH(WORTHY OF WORSHIP) EXCEPT ALLAH, but he changed minor rules for example at the time of Adam peace be upon him marraige between brother and sister was allowed but in Shariyah of Muhammad peace be upon him it is Prohibited.

2ndly if Ved is perfect then it says



besides the above reference showing you that Ishwar is not everywhere, it also is a question for you. This verse is confused about who created the creation and whether Ishwar knows all or not. So this verse is in an agnostic tone. coz this verse is not sure if Ishwar knows all or not.
is this ishwar PERFECT




Agniveer states
It seems that Muhammad wanted to convey this true nature of Ishwar, to best of his limited abilities crippled by his lack of education and epileptic disorder. However, due to conspiracy of his close mates, and his own ignorance to some extent, a defective quran was propagated after his death.

Response

This is again a mere claim and lie from agniveer, I already provided the link of The Compilation of the Quran in this article above see that again.




Agniveer states
Thus there are two Allah in Islam. One Allah is that of the Vedas and other is the limited defective Allah as explained above.

Response

Qur`an says in Surah Ikhlas 112:1-4

Say: He is Allah, the One and Only! Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him.

So Allah is only one and he is not defective in any way Alhumdulillah.

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Agniveer states
Muslims would serve the true cause of Allah if they reject the defective Allah and embrace the true Ishwar of Vedas who is omnipresent, omnipotent and unchangeable.

Response:

Muslims and those who have little intellect will never accept the God who has many, many arms, bellies, mouths and eyes in his body as explained above from hindu texts. Allah is only one and Allah is your lord, our lord and lord of all the worlds their is no Ilah accept Allah.

MAY ALLAH SAVE US FROM DECIEVING AMEEN



Conclusion:
Agniveer lied in whole of his article even in hinduism he don't know the true concept of God.

FOR MORE REFRENCE SEE THIS

http://truthofhinduism.com/rebuttals/vedas-deep-analysis-on-basis-of-dayanand-ji-teaching/

http://truthofhinduism.com/general/vedas-are-not-eternal-a-detailed-analysis/

Refutation of Anti Islamic website (Agniveer)- islam & rebirth.

Assalamualaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barkatahu (May Peace, Blessings & Mercy of Allah Be Upon You)



INTRODUCTION



Islamic concept of rebirth is completely different from the concept of rebirth of other religions; rebirth in Islam does not mean cycle of birth and death.

Quran says,

How can ye reject the faith in Allah?- seeing that ye were without life, and He gave you life; then will He cause you to die, and will again bring you to life; and again to Him will ye return. [Quran 2:28]

Before a certain period of birth the humans are in a lifeless state and when a person is born, he lives his life in the world as per the decree and after that he dies and he will be in that state till the day of resurrection. On the day of resurrection he will be resurrected and will be judged and will find his abode either heaven or hell according to the deeds he had done in his life.

The above verse speaks of the order in which humans have to pass through. It also negates the belief of continued cycle of birth and death. When a person is returned towards Allah on the Day of Resurrection then there will be no death to him.

Life of the world:

Woe, that Day, to the deniers.

[O disbelievers], eat and enjoy yourselves a little; indeed, you are criminals. Quran (77:45-46)

Allah extends provision for whom He wills and restricts [it]. And they rejoice in the worldly life, while the worldly life is not, compared to the Hereafter, except [brief] enjoyment. Quran (13:26)

Similarly there are many verses which termed the life of the world as a brief enjoyment. Those who try to enforce the belief of rebirth in Islam too agrees that the there are many verses which talks about the single worldly life which is brief (short period). It is an attempt to remove the belief in the Day of Resurrection, those who deny the Day of resurrection is indeed the real losers.

Does man think that We will not assemble his bones?

Yes. [We are] Able [even] to proportion his fingertips. Quran (75:3-4)

The above verses completely remove the concept of rebirth wherein souls inhabit new bodies after bodily death. Even when the body of a person is decomposed after his death he will be resurrected from the grave with the same fingertips or say fingerprints which he had in his worldly life.

Generally, the concept of rebirth (in other religion) is referred to the concept of Karma 1, that the deeds which a person accumulates in this life will determine the state in which he will be reborn. If he was bad, he is reborn in the womb of a woman from a lower level of society (caste) and he has to do good deeds so that he may be reborn on a higher level. If, on the other hand, he was good, he is reborn in the womb of a higher caste woman as a pious or holy man and continues to be reborn to successively higher caste women more pious and holy until he reaches perfection as a member of the Brahmin caste. When he becomes perfect, the cycle of rebirth ends with his soul dissolving and reuniting with the world soul, Brahma, in a process known as "Nirvana".

According to Islam and all divinely revealed religions, when a person dies on earth he will not be reborn until the Day of Resurrection. After the destruction of the world, all of mankind will rise up from the dead to be judged by Allah, the only God worthy of worship and the Greatest of Judges. From the time a man dies until he is resurrected, he remains in a suspended state known in Arabic as the "Barzakh". [A partition]. "It should not seem strange to think that someone who died thousands of years ago, may be waiting for thousands of years before finally being brought back to life', because the Prophet (SAW) had said that everyone's death is the beginning of his resurrection. Time only exists for those living on earth. Once a man dies, he leaves the time zone and a thousand years becomes a blinking of an eye. Similarly people who awaken from long comas often think that little or no time has passed.

1 [Karma primarily means action, work or deed. In its secondary sense it signifies the effect of an action, or the sum total of 'effects' of past actions. Thus, it is stated in the Chandogya Upanishad (Veda) that those whose past deeds have been good will after death be reborn from the womb of a Brahman woman. Whereas those whose deeds have been evil will be reborn from the womb of an outcaste woman (See. Dictionary of Religions, p. 180).]



Refutation to the article of agniveer:


Agniveer states: Rebirth forms the essential foundation of almost all the religions of the world. The reasons are obvious:

a. All religions and philosophies of world originate from the same source of Vedas which

is a manual of Theory of Karma that is unhindered by birth and death.


My Response: 1)”All religions and philosophies of world originate from same source of Vedas?” Strange claim!!. The fact is all other religion and philosophies are not originated from the Vedas. Nevertheless I will refute agniveer’s this claim through agniveer.

Agniveer in this article says : Qoute “The implications of this is obvious – in reality Muhammad believed in concept of rebirth.However he was confused due to lack of access to Vedic wisdom.” And in another article says “the basic premise of the Abrahamic beliefs (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are as follows:

God is just, kind, perfect
- This life is our first and last life
- God is testing us here
- Based on the marks we obtain in this test, we will go to either Heaven or Hell.”
http://agniveer.com/465/god-crazy/

In the above given article agniveer accepts that the beliefs of Abrahamic beliefs (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) is different from the Vedas (in their understanding). Now agniveer exposed themselves as liers and an inconsistent lot.

2) If many teachings and concepts within the Vedas are similar to those of Zoroastrian religion, then why should we not conclude that Vedic Religion has been derived from Zoroastrianism, beacuse the Parsis (Zoroastrians) consider their religion older than the Vedic Religion.

ZOROASTRIAN SOURCES OF VEDAS

Sun occupied a very significant position in the religion of Ancient Persia and Zend Avesta. Similarly at various places in the Vedas, Sun god (Surya Devata) occupies a significant position. [Rig Veda Mandal 4; Sukt 14 ]
In the Zend Avesta, god Mithra is glorified as "I announce (and) carry out (this Yasna) for Mithra of wide pastures, of the thousand ears, and of the myriad eyes." [Yasna 1:3]. Similarly Mitra is glorified in Rig Veda 3:59 "MITRA, when speaking, stirreth men to labour: Mitra sustaineth both the earth and heaven. Mitra beholdeth men with eyes that close not. To Mitra bring, with holy oil, oblation."
Vayu Devata is mentioned in both Zend Avesta and Vedas. See for example Yasna 25:5
Yima Xšaēta is mentioned throughout the Zend Avesta and so is Yama Raja mentioned in the Vedas. He has same roles in both the Scriptures, i.e. the ruler of the dead.
Thrita is called the First Healer in Avesta-Venidad; Fargard 20. Similarly Trita Aptya is mentioned as healer in the Vedas.
In Zend Avesta, especially in its HOM YASHT section, Haoma is described as a herb and worthy of worship. Similarly, as we have seen before, Soma is called a herb and deserving worship. For details see HOM YASHT in Avesta- Yasna and Rig Veda Mandal 9 SOM MANDAL.
Agni is taken as an object of worship in both scriptures.
The methods of sacrifice, worship and the words used in worship are so strikingly similar that were I to reproduce here those passages, it can make a voluminous book. To illustrate I will provide only one example of how similar the prayers to Mitra are
'We offer up libations unto Mithra, the lord of wide pastures, who gives a happy dwelling and a good dwelling to the Aryan nations. 'May he come to us for help! May he come to us for ease! May he come to us for joy! May he come to us for mercy! May he come to us for health! May he come to us for victory! May he come to us for good conscience! May he come to us for bliss! he, the awful and overpowering, worthy of sacrifice and prayer, not to be deceived anywhere in the whole of the material world, Mithra, the lord of wide pastures.[Khorda Avesta - 10 Mihr Yasht 4-5]


Mitra, of holy strength, I call, and foe-destroying Varuna, Who make the oil-fed rite complete. Mitra and Varuna, through Law, lovers and cherishers of Law, Have ye obtained your might power Our Sages, Mitra-Varuna, wide dominion, strong by birth, Vouchsafe us strength that worketh well.[Rig Veda - Mandal 1; Sukt 2; Mantras 7-9]

These are only some of the thousands of similarities between Zoroastrian Scriptures and Vedas. These similarities provide good ground to believe that Vedic teachings have their source in the Parsi Religion.



INTERNAL EVIDENCE (WHAT DO THE VEDAS SAY?)


Let us take a look at some Vedic Mantras which falsify the claim that Vedas are beginningless. I will provide the scanned images of the orginal text plus the hindi translation by Arya Samaj as well as the English Translation and my comments.


1. Following is the scanned image from Yajur Veda Adhyay (Chapter) 13; Mantra (Verse) 37 and then the english translation.



"O Learned man! You have gained knowledge from ancient scholars. You are charitable. Join your trained horses to your chariots, ready to face your enemy and establish yourself on the throne on justice."


The mantra is clearly referring to ancient scholars who were well verses in the ways of warfare. Thus the Vedas were compiled in the times when civilization had progressed to the extent that chariots were used and warfare was known.


2. Yajur Ved Adhyay 12; Mantra 111 reads



"O Man, follow thou the scholars, those who are aware of the ups and downs, those who have extensive knowledge, who are righteous, who passed away in the first age (Satyug). This is what I command you."


It is clear that these verses, and hence the book, have been written after Satyug, which is believed by Hindus as the first age in their division of time periods. So Vedic finite nature is established.


3. Further, it is mentioned in Yajur Ved Adhyay 19; Mantra 38



"O our Father, Grandfather and Great-Grandfather. Purify our life. Fulfill our wishes and our hard work in all ways. Keep us away from those evil dog-like humans who live near and far."


This shows that Vedas were written at a time when many generations of humans had passed from the first humans and there were people who believed and disbelieved in the Vedas, the latter being compared to evil dogs. Thus Vedas were written at a finite time.


I can go on and on posting passages from the Vedas which refute the claims of Vedas being from the beginning. But, it will make the article too long. So I will suffice with mere references, like the one presented above, which throw more light on this topic. Yajur Veda 34:16 speaks about ancient knowledge and scriptures (Puranas and other shastras), which were present before the Vedas. Same is mentioned in Yajur Veda 34:27.


SOURCE: WRITTEN BY MUSHAFIQ SULTAN TAKEN FROM


http://www.theintellectual.info/religion/hinduism/281-vedas-are-not-eternal-a-detailed-analysis





Agniveer states: b. A huge number of blatant discrepancies emerge if one is to believe that God is just or even that the world is not a random motion of subatomic particles. For example refer God must be Crazy article.

My Response: Whatever discrepancies that was portrayed by agniveer was clearly showing their lack of understanding of Islamic concept.

Agniveer insult God by considering God as unjust.

There was not a single discrepancies that was found in that article, it was their lack of knowledge.

For example, Some children are born healthy while others are born handicapped or with a congenital defect. Irrespective of whether a child is born healthy or handicap, in Islam he is Masoom i.e. sinless. There is no question of the child being handicapped due to a carried forward baggage of past sins from ‘a previous life’. Such a belief will not inculcate a charitable attitude in others. Others might say that the child deserves his birth defects or the handicap since it is a result of his ‘bad karma’.




Agniveer states: It is however popularly believed that Islam opposes concept of rebirth. In fact Islam is said to be the biggest critique of theory of rebirth.

My Response: One of the main articles of belief in Islam is the Resurrection of everyone on the Day of Resurrection. And as per the deeds done in the life of the world everyone will enter either heaven or hell in the Hereafter. All Muslims have belief in the life after death so saying Islam is the biggest critique of the theory of rebirth is not true. But Islam is the biggest critique of the theory of cycle of birth, death and rebirth which is called Samsara.




Agniveer states: Muslims firmly believe that there is just one life here and then it’s all over. We don’t get any second chance to improve ourselves.

My Response: When will a person improve? A person will improve only when he knows very well what he did mistake earlier, so next time he will strive to rectify his mistakes. But, in actual no person remembers what mistake he did in his earlier life. May be this is the same reason of Hitler killing 6 million Jews. Hitler (with swastika flags) might have thought he could improve himself in the next life and do genocide on Jews in the present life




Agniveer states: We will be raised from our graves on the Day of
Judgment and our hands, shoulders, face etc will give the testimony of our deeds whatever good or bad.

My Response: This part deals with the testimony of body parts (such hands, legs,etc) against ownselves, Quran describe this in few places, one such place is in Surah Fussilat.

And [mention, O Muhammad], the Day when the enemies of Allah will be gathered to the Fire while they are [driven] assembled in rows,

Until, when they reach it, their hearing and their eyes and their skins will testify against them of what they used to do.

And they will say to their skins, "Why have you testified against us?" They will say, "We were made to speak by Allah, who has made everything speak; and He created you the first time, and to Him you are returned.

And you were not covering yourselves, lest your hearing testify against you or your sight or your skins, but you assumed that Allah does not know much of what you do.Quran (41: 19-22)



But why there is a need for limbs to testify? The will is given in the following hadith.

It was also recorded by Muslim and An-Nasa'i. Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that Abu Burdah said that Abu Musa said, "The disbeliever or the hypocrite will be called to account and his Lord will show him his deeds, but he will deny them and say, `O Lord, by Your glory, this angel has written about me something that I did not do.' The angel will say to him, `Did you not do such and such on such and such a day in such and such a place' He will say, `No, by Your glory O Lord, I did not do it.' When he does that, a seal will be placed over his mouth.'' Al-Ash`ari, may Allah be pleased with him, said, "I think that the first part of his body to speak will be his right thigh.''




Agniveer states: Interestingly, this Day will look like night since sun will be folded along with its spacious light before that day! Allah will raise up all who are in the graves [Quran 22:7]
Another scope of research for Mullahs will be that what will happen to those, like us, who are cremated and thus have no graves! But this is beyond the scope of this article and we leave it for future.



My Response: The earth that day will be with a completely different look as said in Quran and to describe how it will be it will be too lengthy to include in this article. But the core thing is comparision between earth on Day of Resurrection and the present state of earth will not be correct. As Quran says,


[It will be] on the Day the earth will be replaced by another earth, and the heavens [as well], and all creatures will come out before Allah, the One, the Prevailing. Quran (14: 48)



As far as the saying, that day will look likes night is concerned: Even in night we can have moon and stars light, but on that Day even this light won’t be there. There will be only the Light (Noor) of Allah.



And the earth will shine with the light of its Lord, and the record [of deeds] will be placed, and the prophets and the witnesses will be brought, and it will be judged between them in truth, and they will not be wronged. Quran(39: 69)



Next the anti-islamist qoute Quran [22:7] verse which says,



And [that they may know] that the Hour is coming – no doubt about it – and that Allah will resurrect those in the graves.


Agniveer doubts on being resurrected as they are cremated: No need to doubt you will be definitely resurrected in the Hereafter; Islam already answered the queries like these.

And they did not appraise Allah with true appraisal…. Quran (6:91)

The might of Allah is so much that he can do whatever he wills just by saying “Be”. A man of preceding age too thought in the same way.

Narrated Ribi bin Hirash:'Uqba said to Hudhaifa, "Won't you narrate to us what you heard from Allah's Apostle?" Hudhaifa said, "I heard him saying, 'Death approached a man and when he had no hope of surviving, he said to his family, 'When I die, gather for me much wood and build a fire (to burn me), When the fire has eaten my flesh and reached my bones, take the bones and grind them and scatter the resulting powder in the sea on a hot (or windy) day.' (That was done.) But Allah collected his particles and asked (him), 'Why did you do so?' He replied, 'For fear of You.' So Allah forgave him."(Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 685)


Doubters of Resurrection have doubt that how they will be resurrected when their bodies are burned or cremated but the person mentioned in hadith asked his son to burn his body, crush (grind) the remaining and spread the particles in the sea and air. But Allah is able to resurrect the person from any form and even without form.




Agniveer states:
The concept of everlasting hell and heaven is the essential outcome of the axiom of “just one life”. “Just one life” ideology is enlightening the Kasabs and Osamas with the same zeal with which it would enlighten Muhammad’s misguided Mujaahideen in past.


My Response: The “Just one (worldly) life” is the just and the only correct ideology. This is the same reason due to which a terrorist like kasab once said “I should be punished by this world for what I did here, not by the Almighty”.It showing that he knows what he did was wrong and will be accounted for in the hereafter.

The ideology of “Just one (worldly) life” and the Hereafter puts the fear of Hell in the hereafter with no one to compensate for their mistakes, for the wrong ones. If anyone spread mischief then for such people there will be hell in the hereafter. Let’s make it clear by putting an example of Just one (worldly) life ideology:

If a class Xth student is told by his father that if he is doesn’t pass in the first attempt then he will be compelled to discontinue his studies. Then, How he will study? He will put all his efforts to pass exam in his first attempt itself. On contrary, those who think they have many attempts will put less effort.



Similarly, when you see seers (or saints) cum terrorist like Pragya Singh Thakur and Purohit Dayanand Pande are not ashamed of the terrorist activities done by them even they do they have the ideologies which encourage evil by making them perceive that they have many lives to improve but “for now take revenge on Muslims”.

Apart from these many cases of immoral activities have been surfaced of sadhus (Hindu seers) involving in sex scandal, like Swami Nitynanda and many more.




Agniveer states: But is this theory actually found in Quran or is it just a humbug being spread by Mullahs?


My Response: Again Refuting Agniveer through its own article ;). Agniveer says in the very same article “We accept that there are many verses in Quran which talk about just one life here and a permanent heaven and hell hereafter.”

I Can’t understand why agniveer is so much interested in exposing themselves as Inconsistent and Confused people. Anyways let’s see what Quran says,



Every soul will taste death, and you will only be given your [full] compensation on the Day of Resurrection. So he who is drawn away from the Fire and admitted to Paradise has attained [his desire]. And what is the life of this world except the enjoyment of delusion. Quran (3: 185)


Every soul will taste death. Then to Us will you be returned.Quran (29: 57)


Quran says after death there will be no return to the world but they will be returned to Allah on the Day of Resurrection.





Agniveer states: Rebirth in Vedic literature stands for a process in which a soul gets reunited with a new body, leaving behind the old one. Or in other words, it is the transformation of one combination (of soul and previous body) to the other combination (of soul and next body). Important is the thing that soul remains the same in whole process.

My Response: Vedic Literature? Prove from Vedas of what you said, if you can’t let me show what Vedas says,

There is reference to life after death in the Vedas. It is mentioned in:

“The unborn portion, burn that, AGNI, with thy heat; let thy flame, thy splendour, consume it; with those glorious members which thou hast given him, JATAVEDAS, bear him to the world (of the virtuous)” (Rigved: 10: 16: 4)

The Sanskrit word 'Sukritam u Lokam' means 'the word of the virtuous or region of the pious, referring to the hereafter. The next verse i.e.

b. “… Putting on (Celestial) life, let the remains (of bodily like) depart: let him, JATAVEDAS be associated with a body.” (Rigved: 10: 16: 5). This verse too refers to a second life i.e. life after death.

‘Swarga' in the Vedas:

a. 'Swarg' i.e. Paradise, is described in several places in the Vedas including: “May all these streams of butter, with their banks of honey, flowing with distilled water, and milk and curds and water reach thee in domestic life enhancing thy pleasure. May thou acquire completely these things strengthening the soul in diverse ways. Having pools of clarified butter, stocks of sweet honey, and having exhilarating drinks for water, full of milk and curds, may all these streams flow to us in the world of happiness swelling sweetly. May our lakes full of lotuses be situated near us.” (Atharva Ved: 4: 34: 6)



b. “Bereft of physical bodies, pure, cleansed with the wind, brilliant, they go to a brilliant world. The fire does not cause burning in their male organ. In the world of happiness they get plenty of women. (Atharva Ved: 4: 34: 2)



c. “May the realised ones, first of all, take the vital breath under their control from the limbs in which it has been circulating. Go to heaven stay firm with all the parts of your body. Attain the world of light and emancipation, following the path of the enlightened ones (your predecessors)”. (Atharva Ved: 2: 34: 5)



Vedas also talks of the Paradise and Hell rather than transmigration of soul, but the scholars of Hindus have deviated the masses by getting the concept of life and death, again and again and preferred their concept over the concept of Vedas.

Rebirth in Hinduism. Why it is brought by Hindu scholars?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL0YTQSo_pA

Logically, if the concept of transmigration of soul is real, then why the population in world is always increasing why it not constant or decrease due to people achieving Nirvana.

Important question confronts the believers in the theory of transmigration of souls:
(1) Should the life of a sufering person be saved in the circumstances, when according to the theory of Transmigration he is being punished by God for some sin or other ? I wonder if an Arya Samajist would let his only son die without medical treatment, taking the illness to be a just retribution from God visited on the son for some past sin of his ?

(2) Then again it might help the son to sufer the pain patiently and perhaps to die without protest, if he could be told clearly and in so many words as to his past sin for which he is being punished. If this is not possible, then the whole theory is an impious iction. In fact it may be come inhuman and illegal. For example A murders B now witness C(a believer in the transmigration of souls) believing that B suffered death because of his past sins and A was only an Instrument of God to effect that punishment,and allows A may even help him to escape. What would police think of C.

READ MORE
http://truthofhinduism.com/general/reincarnationa-detailed-analysis/


One question is, If achieving Nirvana is the only thing then why Paradise and Hell is mentioned in Vedas?
Anti Islamist quote some verses of Quran to support their claim that Islam too subscribes the view of transmigration of souls. Such as,


Agniveer states: And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected." [Quran 2:65]
When in their insolence they transgressed [all] prohibitions, We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected." [Quran 7:166]
Comments
The above verses clearly show that Allah gives different bodies to the people as per their
deeds. This is merely the concept of rebirth in any religion. The only difference is that Allah takes no time in changing the bodies for the souls whereas all others believe this process to be carried out under relatively slow natural unchangeable laws.
My Response: If anyone who read the context of the above said verses, then it will be clear that these are referring to the people who violated the sanctity of the Sabbath and for that they were punished and transformed in apes and swine and they lived in that state not more than 3 days after transformation.

Ask them concerning the town standing close by the sea. Behold! they transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath. For on the day of their Sabbath their fish did come to them, openly holding up their heads, but on the day they had no Sabbath, they came not: thus did We make a trial of them, for they were given to transgression.

When some of them said: "Why do ye preach to a people whom Allah will destroy or visit with a terrible punishment?"- said the preachers:" To discharge our duty to your Lord, and perchance they may fear Him."

When they disregarded the warnings that had been given them, We rescued those who forbade Evil; but We visited the wrong-doers with a grievous punishment because they were given to transgression.

When in their insolence they transgressed (all) prohibitions, We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected." Quran(7: 163-166)
And Ibn Abbas's hadith too clears the concept.

Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that Ibn 'Abbas said, "Those who violated the sanctity of the Sabbath were turned into monkeys, then they perished without offspring.'' Ad-Dahhak said that Ibn 'Abbas said, "Allah turned them into monkeys because of their sins. They only lived on the earth for three days, for no transformed person ever lives more than three days....

Furthermore they quote this verse of Quran,



Agniveer states: We are not to be frustrated from changing your Forms and creating you [again]
in [forms] that ye know not. [Quran 56:60, 61]
Comments
a. This verse seems to be an answer from Allah to a question, "will you create me in different forms again and again?"
b. Tafsir e Azeezi contains a hadith in which Muhammad says- "It is confirmed that you have been created to sustain for eternity. It is also confirmed that you die and go to other world every time and you will continue to do so forever".
My Response:
Explanation of the verse:
a) When a person comes forth from his grave and is gathered and brought to account, his body will remain the same as it was before he died. Then when the people of Paradise enter Paradise and the people of Hell enter Hell, Allaah will change their forms.
Description of the people of Hell:

It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "The molar of the kaafir – or the eyetooth of the kaafir – will be like Uhud, and his skin will be as thick as three days' travelling." (Narrated by Muslim, 2851).

Description of the people of Paradise:
It was narrated from Mu'aadh ibn Jabal that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "The people of Paradise will enter Paradise hairless and beardless, with kohl-rimmed eyes, all thirty or thirty-three years old." (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 2545).
There are many other references of forms getting changing in the hereafter but this will suffice for the moment.
b) And any thing which is mentioned and is referred to Muhammad peace be upon him as hadith then it is compulsory that the narrators name has to be provided else it would be considered as genuine. Major part of hadiths is evaluated (either authentic or fabricated) based on the chain of narrators who narrate the hadith. Just by saying Azeezi says this and Hussaini says that won't work.


Agniveer states: 5. How can ye reject the faith in Allah?- seeing that ye were without life, and He gave you life; then will He cause you to die, and will again bring you to life; and again to Him will ye return. [Quran 2:28]
Comments
a. This verse is totally in sync with two main concepts of Vedas. One the uncreated souls and second their cycle of birth and death. The word "ye" is the proof of existence of the entity "ye", even before Allah gave life to it. If Allah would have created this entity "ye", the verse would have been "...seeing that ye did not exist and He made you existent...". This contradicts with the common belief of many Muslims that souls are created by Allah. To hold this verse true in all era and thus Allah to be outside the time bound, "ye" has to be without beginning as mentioned in this verse.
b. Life after death and death after life in cyclic order is clearly evident from the verse, which is exactly the same as that of Vedic concept of "Punarjanm" or "Rebirth".
c. Some people might say that giving life again implies the rising up of dead from the graves on judgment day, but then in that case, Quranwill not be eternal as claimed by Mullahs. Anything can be said as eternal onlywhen it remains with all its properties till eternity. So, guiding people,being the property of Quran should always be there till eternity. For being so,people to be guided should always be there till eternity. And this verse tobecome applicable till eternity, there should be no end of this process oflife-death-life-death.....
Putting this in simple words, if heaven andhell are eternal, Quran can't be eternal because this verse cannot be appliedon those sitting in everlasting heaven or hell.

My Response:

a) This verse is very simple and agniveer is trying to make it complex, as well already seen, how much they are confused andinconsistent people, Let me put that in simple words. The verse says "seeingthat you were without life" that means lifeless. Let me explain this with anexample, if I say the glass is without life or lifeless, then is it necessaryit have life earlier.

b)It had been earlierexplained in the article about this very same verse.

"Before a certain period ofbirth the humans are in a lifeless state and when a person is born, he liveshis life in the world as per the decree and after that he dies and he will bein that state till the day of resurrection. On the day of resurrection he willbe resurrected and will be judged and will find his abode either heaven or hellaccording to the deeds he had done in his life.

The above verse speaks ofthe order in which humans have to pass through. It also negates the belief of continuedcycle of birth and death. When a person is returned towards Allah on the Day ofResurrection then there will be no death to him."

c) This verse showed thewhole process of the humans starting with before the birth till returningtowards the Allah i.e; on the Day of Resurrection. Instead if it had been asagniveer said then it would not be applicable because after returning towardsAllah there will be no coming back. And as far as the people of Heaven and Hellare concerned, they have already passed through that stage and the verse ismade true.


Agniveer states: Think not of those who areslain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in thepresence of their Lord. [Quran 3:169]
TheProphet said: ...I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then getresurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then getmartyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred... [Bukhari 4.54]

Comments

a)Yet anotherverse, which claims rebirth, leaving no confusion whatsoever

Comments

b)In the end, we would say that could Prophet,who was an ideal person and a role model for his country, a chosen one byAllah, think anything opposite to Allah's will? If concept of rebirth is antiIslamic and against Allah's will, could Muhammad wish to get life again andagain? Answer is no. The implications of this is obvious – in reality Muhammadbelieved in concept of rebirth. However he was confused due to lack of accessto Vedic wisdom. But he did teach rebirth concepts to best of his abilities.However, after he died, and perhaps even during his lifetime, many spuriousverses were added to original Quran to further the designs of his politicallymotivated companions who were bent on killing each other.

My Response: As per them the verses speak of rebirth but it nowheretalks of rebirth. Rather it speaks of the merits of the martyr.

Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, findingtheir sustenance in the presence of their Lord.

They rejoice in the bounty provided by Allah. And with regard to those left behind,who have not yet joined them (in their bliss), the (Martyrs) glory in the factthat on them is no fear, nor have they (cause to) grieve. Quran (3: 169-170)

A martyr when he dies hegets sustenance from Allah and will be high in ranks and will be among thosewho are nearer to Lord. There is a difference between the martyr and death butthe common thing between both is their worldly life will be finished and theywill not come back to the world.

Believers do wish forMartyrdom as it has good rewards:

And you hadcertainly wished for martyrdom before you encountered it, and you have[now] seen it [before you] while you were looking on. Quran(3:143)

b) In the comments agniveer again exposed their lack of understanding of Islam's basics. It says "Prophet, who was an ideal person and a role model for hiscountry,". Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him IS an ideal person (don'tuse was) and role model for the WHOLE OF MANKIND not for his country.

Say:"O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whombelongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: itis He That giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger,the Unlettered Prophet, who believeth in Allah and His words: follow him that(so) ye may be guided." Quran (7:158)

OMankind! The Messengerhath come to you in truth from Allah. believe in him: It is best for you. Butif ye reject Faith, to Allah belong all things in the heavens and on earth: AndAllah is All-knowing, All-wise. Quran (4:170)

As Muhammad peace be upon him all Muslims believe inthe life after death and in that life all will be judged. As far as theauthenticity of the Quran is concerned it has been dealt in the latter part ofthe article.


Agniveer states: It is We Who created them, and We have made theirjoints strong; but, when We will, We can substitute the like of them by acomplete change. [Quran 76:28]
Comments

Tafsir e Husaini while describing this versesays-"Means that Allah can transform one in

better or worsestate from now or He may keep same as now".

My Response: Again a Tafsir of Unknown person more than that without narrator (Though there is no objection in his tafseer as it means justchanging of forms which will be on the Day of Resurrection). There is a hadithrelated to this verse which is as follows,

Ibn 'Abbas,Mujahid and others have said, "This means their creation.'' (When We will,We can substitute the like of them by a complete change.) meaning, 'when Wewish, We will resurrect them on the Day of Judgement and change them, repeatingtheir creation in a new form.' Here the beginning of their creation is a prooffor the repetition of their creation.


Agniveer states: The likeness of the lifeof the present is as the rain which We send down from the skies. [Quran 10:24]
Set forth to them the similitude of the lifeof this world: It is like the rain which we send down from the skies: theearth's vegetation absorbs it, but soon it becomes dry stubble, which the windsdo scatter: it is [only] Allah who prevails over all things. [Quran 18:45]

Comments

a. These verses may not look relevant in thefirst sight but when looked closely, they present beautiful combination ofscience and philosophy of rebirth. Everyone knows that water is not created inthe skies but it moves in a cycle of vaporisation and condensation. It goesfrom down to up and up to down. It is mentioned in the verse that when water isno longer there, vegetation gets dried, it means the death. But does watervanish really? No, rather it again goes up and comes down in the next cycle.So, life, being similitude of water, is also in a cycle of birth and death

b. If someone says that life and death arenot cyclic then this verse has to be false as well as non scientific. It will befalse because of claiming similarity between water and life and non scientificbecause of assuming water to be created in the skies instead of remaining inthe cycle.

My Response: Anti-Islamist quoted partial verse of Quran (Verse10:24) to change the meaning according to their will lets see the verse and itsexplantion,

Thelikeness of the life of the present is as the rain which We send down from theskies: by its mingling arises the produce of the earth- which provides food formen and animals: (It grows) till the earth is clad with its golden ornamentsand is decked out (in beauty): the people to whom it belongs think they haveall powers of disposal over it: There reaches it Our command by night or byday, and We make it like a harvest clean-mown, as if it had not flourished onlythe day before! thus do We explain the Signs in detail for those who reflect.Quran (10: 24)

Allah the Almighty has setan example of the similitude of the life of this world, its glitter and theswiftness of its passage, likening it to the plant and vegetation that Allahbrings out from the earth. This plant grows from the water that comes down fromthe sky. These plants are food for people, such as fruits and other differenttypes and kinds of foods. Some other kinds are food for cattle such as cloverplants (i.e. green fodder for the cattle) and herbage etc. (until when theearth is clad in its adornments ,) (and is beautified ) meaning, it became goodby what grows on its hills such as blooming flowers of different shapes andcolors. (and its people think...) those who planted it and put it in theground, (that they have all the powers of disposal over it) to cultivate it andharvest it. But while they were in that frame of mind, a thunderbolt or asevere, cold storm came to it. It dried its leaves and spoiled its fruits.Allah said: (Our command reaches it by night or by day and We make it like aclean-mown harvest,) it became dry after it was green and flourishing. (As ifit had not flourished yesterday!) As if nothing existed there before.Qatadah said: "As if it had not flourished; as if it was never blessed.''Such are things after they perish; they are as if they had never existed.

Read the verse andunderlined part carefully.

Similarly, the Hadith on this verse is,

(A person wholed the most prosperous life in this world will be brought up and dipped oncein the Fire. He will then be asked: 'Have you ever found any good or comfort'He will reply: 'No.' And a person who had experienced extreme adversity in thisworld will be brought up and dipped once in the bliss (of Paradise). Then hewill be asked: 'Did you ever face any hardship or misery' He will reply: 'No.'

(This Hadith is good and narrated in Mustadrak of Al-Hakim)

Hope at least now theyunderstood its meaning.


Agniveer states: Didst thou not Turn byvision to those who abandoned their homes, though they were thousands [Innumber], for fear of death? Allah said to them: "Die": Then He restored them tolife. For Allah is full of bounty to mankind, but Most of them are ungrateful.[Quran 2:243]

My Response: This verse clearly speaks of people of in thousands(in numbers) who abandoned their homes. This is referring to the Story of Prophet Hizqil (AS).

Ibn Abu Hatim related thatIbn 'Abbas said that these people mentioned herein, were the residents of avillage called Dawardan. 'Ali bin 'Asim said that they were from Dawardan, avillage several miles away from Wasit (in Iraq).

In his Tafsir, Waki' binJarrah said that Ibn 'Abbas commented,

(Did you (O Muhammad) not thinkof those who went forth from their homes in thousands, fearing death) that theywere four thousand persons who escaped the plague (that broke out in theirland). They said, "We should go to a land that is free of death!'' Whenthey reached a certain area, Allah said to them: ("Die.'') and they alldied. Afterwards, one of the Prophets passed by them and supplicated to Allahto resurrect them and Allah brought them back to life. So, Allah stated: (Didyou (O Muhammad) not think of those who went forth from their homes in thethousands, fearing death)

These people were theresidents of a city during the time of the Children of Israel. The weather intheir land did not suit them and an epidemic broke out. They fled their landfearing death and took refuge in the wilderness. They later arrived at afertile valley and they filled what is between its two sides. Then Allah senttwo angels to them, one from the lower side and the other from the upper sideof the valley. The angels screamed once and all the people died instantly, justas the death of one man. They were later moved to a different place, wherewalls and graves were built around them. They all perished, and their bodiesrotted and disintegrated. Long afterwards, one of the Prophets of the Childrenof Israel, whose name was Hizqil (Ezekiel), passed by them and asked Allah tobring them back to life by his hand. Allah accepted his supplication andcommanded him to say, "O rotted bones, Allah commands you to cometogether.'' The bones of every body were brought together. Allah then commandedhim to say, "O bones, Allah commands you to be covered with flesh, nervesand skin.'' That also happened while Hizqil was watching. Allah then commandedhim to say, "O souls, Allah commands you to return, each to the bodythat it used to inhabit.'' They all came back to life, looked aroundand proclaimed, "All praise is due to You (O Allah!) and there is no deityworthy of worship except You.'' Allah brought them back to life after they hadperished long ago.


Agniveer states: Then We raised you upafter your death: Ye had the chance to be grateful. [Quran 2:56]

My Response: Firstly there is no point to support rebirth from thisverse, but still lets see the context of the verse,

And remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Ye have indeed wrongedyourselves by your worship of the calf: So turn (in repentance) to your Maker,and slay yourselves (the wrong-doers); that will be better for you in the sightof your Maker." Then He turned towards you (in forgiveness): For He isOft- Returning, Most Merciful.

And remember ye said: "O Moses! We shall never believe in thee until we seeAllah manifestly," but ye were dazed with thunder and lighting even as yelooked on.

Then We raised you up after your death: Ye had the chance to be grateful. Quran.(2:54-56)

These verses speaks howAllah gave life back to the people of Musa (AS) but this is not referring tothe transmigration of the soul (souls inhabiting in new bodies).


Agniveer states: It is Allah Who causeththe seed-grain and the date-stone to split and sprout. He causeth the living toissue from the dead, and He is the one to cause the dead to issue from theliving. That is Allah: then how are ye deluded away from the truth? Quran [6:95]
And who is it that brings out the living from the dead and the dead from theliving? [Quran 10:31]

It is He Who brings out the living from the dead, and brings out the dead from theliving, and Who gives life to the earth after it is dead: and thus shall ye bebrought out [from the dead]. [Quran 30:19]

"Thoucausest the night to gain on the day, and thou causest the day to gain on thenight; Thou bringest the Living out of the dead, and Thou bringest the dead outof the Living; and Thou givest sustenance to whom Thou pleasest, withoutmeasure." [Quran 3:27]

Comments

a. Verses are clear in stating that life anddeath are cyclic and occur one after another just like day and night.

b. Some Muslim friends argue that bringingliving out of dead and dead out of living mean "living baby from the deadsemen" and "dead semen from the living male". But it cannot be the meaning atall. There is a huge difference between "non living" and dead. Dead implies forsomeone who possessed life in past but not now, whereas non living is somethingwhich has nothing to do with life or death because it had no potential tobecome alive anytime. For example, pan, paper, fan, etc are never called asdead; rather they are called as non living. So, semen should be called as non livingrather than dead. So, it is proved that "dead" the above verses refer tosomeone who possessed life and again it will be alive. This is what rebirth is!

My Response:

a) life anddeath are cyclic just like day and night ? How can you conclude like that. Theverse talks about the might of Allah and it is not comparing the lifeand death with day and night. Read these with verses it is not comparing lifeand day (cyclic) with day and night.

Say:"O Allah. Lord of Power (And Rule), Thou givest power to whom Thoupleasest, and Thou strippest off power from whom Thou pleasest: Thou enduestwith honour whom Thou pleasest, and Thou bringest low whom Thou pleasest: InThy hand is all good. Verily, over all things Thou hast power.

"Thoucausest the night to gain on the day, and thou causest the day to gain on thenight; Thou bringest the Living out of the dead, and Thou bringest the dead outof the Living; and Thou givest sustenance to whom Thou pleasest, withoutmeasure." Quran (3: 26-27)

b) (You (Allah) bring theliving out of the dead, and You (Allah) bring the dead out of the living.)means, You bring out the seed (lifeless) from the plant (living) and the plantfrom the seed; the date from its seed and the date's seed from the date; thefaithful from the disbeliever and the disbeliever from the faithful; thechicken from the egg and the egg from the chicken, etc (many such examples).And all these verses are no where related to the transmigration of soul i.e.,soul inhabiting multiple bodies.


Agniveer states: Has not He, [the same],the power to give life to the dead? [Quran 75:40]
O my beloved Allah! We know you have thepower, but our Muslim brothers and sisters don't believe! I know you have powerto convince them as well, hope You will do it!

My Response: Yes, Allah gives life to the dead in the Hereafter andevery Muslim believes that when he is dead he will be given life and will betaken into account and everyone will be judged and those who thought this worldis the only place where they will be living and dying, then for these people Quran says,

[For such is the state of the disbelievers], until, when death comes to one of them,he says, "My Lord, send me back

ThatI might do righteousness in that which I left behind." No! It is only a word heis saying; and behind them is a barrier until the Day they are resurrected.Quran (23: 99-100).

The disbeliever denies theday of resurrection and this belief will make them remorseful on the Day of Judgementand they will plead to Lord for sending them back to the world, but that willbe too late for them.


Agniveer states: Just think that had this modern Quran beenindeed foolproof and final authentic version revealed to Muhammad, was Allahincapable enough to not ensure that the Quran was preserved in written anddocumented format in Muhammad's lifetime itself? Why did Allah allow in LoheMahfooz to have verses in Hadiths which talk of goat eating some verses ofQuran? Why did Allah leave the task of documenting Quran on Muhammad'sfollowers after his death? But, as we have mentioned in our previous articles,current Quran is not the same as Muhammad dictated to his Sahabas (companions).It has undergone many interpolations by the so called followers of Muhammad tofulfil their own agenda of ruling the world by hook or by crook.

My Response: There is only one Quran since it was revealed to theprophet there is no such modern or ancient Quran. Quran wasalready preserved in the lifetime of Muhammad peace be upon him by thememorizing of the majority of Muslims of each generation whether it be Sahabas,Tabieen, Tab-e-Tabieen, or general Muslims even in the present time millions ofMuslims memorized the complete Quran. This is the best way of preserving Quranwhere millions memorized completely due to the reward of memorizing Quran

NarratedUthman ra: Rasulullah saw said: "The best of you is he who has learnt theQur'an and then taught it." (Bukhari)

Apart from memorizing manySahabas wrote down verses of Quran (and even hadiths) on the instruction ofMuhammad peace be upon him what ever they found. For complete informationfollow this link,

http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/textual.htm

And just by your mere sayingthat Quran has undergone changes doesn't have any value. Whatever you say whenit comes to Islam first the proof is to be provided.


Agniveer states: And why were they fighting each other if Quran was supposedto preach only peace?

My Response: If anyone does that then they not following Quran, asQuran says:

Hold fast to the rope of Allah alltogether, and do not separate. Remember Allah's blessing to you when you wereenemies and He joined your hearts together so that you became brothers by Hisblessing. You were on the very brink of a pit of the Fire and He rescued youfrom it. In this way Allah makes His Signs clear to you, so that hopefully youwill be guided. (Surah al'Imran, 103)

The believers are brothers, so makepeace between your brothers and heed Allah so that hopefully you will gainmercy. (Surat al-Hujurat, 10)

These are few verses of many which speaks how a Muslimshould be with other Muslims.


Agniveer states: Why did Allah kill the Caliphwho is said to have compiled modern Quran?

My Response: And if you are killed in the cause ofAllah or die - then forgiveness from Allah and mercy are better than whateverthey accumulate [in this world] Quran(3:157)

Death will come to everyone,who ever it may. But getting martyred is far more superior that dieingnormally, so the Caliph died in a superior death.


Agniveer states: Even someone like Zakir Naik also knows thisvery well. He was asked once whether Heaven and Hell are eternal? He repliedthat only Allah is eternal and Heaven/Hell will come to end one day. Whichclearly means that the cycle will be repeated after that if Allah is just andkind.
Refer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5HNJKrZbZs

My Response: After the judgment when everyone will be put in Heaven/ Hell then thatwill be the abode forever. There is no reason to compare Allah with hiscreatures,

And there is none like unto Him. Quran(112:4)

The above verse shows that there can be no comparisionthat means we cant compare the eternity of the Lord and his creatures.For example, we see and hear and Lord to Sees and Hear but there is adifference in the hearing and seeing of Lord as He sees and Hear to everyone atthe same time which we cant.

Agniveer states: So we request every Muslim brother and sisterto reject biased and unscientific adulterations of modern Quran and come backto the original Quran of Muhammad which guides us to follow only the Vedas, thetrue knowledge, which is the root of every rational concept of every religion.

My Response: Firstly there is no such modern and ancient Quran there is only oneQuran since it was revealed. And from the article one will get to "what Quransays" and "What Vedas says" and how agniveer exposed themselves as liers andinconsistent group of people on multiple times. I request all Non-Muslims toleave their arrogance and come towards truth so that you get the salvation.

And who is more unjust than he whoinvents a lie about Allah? Those will be presented before their Lord, and thewitnesses will say, "These are the ones who lied against their Lord."Unquestionably, the curse of Allah is upon the wrongdoers.

Who averted [people] from the way ofAllah and sought to make it [seem] deviant while they, concerning theHereafter, were disbelievers. Quran (11: 18-19)

The liars who lied on Islam by interpreting the versesso as to change the original concept of hereafter should repent and submitthemselves to the will of Allah . The world will vanish and everyone will dieone day and there will be an end to this worldly life. So think on it, whatanswer will you give to the Almighty Lord.